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Tehelka Magazine, Vol 5, Issue 22, Dated june 07, 2008 |
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‘The murder was an
act of intimidation. It
has not succeeded’
The architect
of the National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme, development economist
Jean Dreze has also spearheaded community-led social audits of the scheme,
in which murdered activist Lalit Mehta had assisted him for years. In
Chhatarpur, Jharkhand for the latest round of social audits, Dreze spoke
to SHOBHITA NAITHANI about his associate’s murder,
the deeply entrenched corruption, and why there’s still hope for the scheme.
Do
you think Lalit was murdered for undertaking the social audit of NREGS?
Initially no, but now I have somewhat revised my view. I don’t know if
there is a direct link, but I am quite persuaded that it’s something to
do with the sort of work he has been doing in the area for a long time,
and possibly the social audit itself.
This particular
one or the ones that have been conducted over the years?
There have been a series of social audits in this area and it’s obviously
antagonising people in high places and it’s possible that they thought
there was going to be an enquiry, and a more extensive one than the earlier
ones. It’s a possibility that they thought that may be the whole thing
would collapse if they target him because he was the local coordinator.
Even the police are saying that it is not an ordinary murder and it is
somebody who was antagonised by this kind of work behind it.
Was this a
more extensive audit?
Yes, from the earlier ones that have been done in this area. This is a
case where we were actually able to go fairly wide over the entire block.
And where we were also able to get action taken which under normal circumstances
is very difficult.
Do you mean
the suspension?
Suspension and two FIRs (Forest Ranger, Chhatarpur was suspended and FIRs
were lodged against two forest officials).
Is the entire
system involved in the corruption?
Well, that does seem to be the case in this area. One has to see a little
bit of the context. The way these public works have been operating for
a long time is that they are implemented by private contractors who exploit
the labour as much as they can. They get the work done as cheaply as possible
and they make money by fudging the muster rolls and then they share that
money with the sarkari officials and the political bosses who are protecting
them. This is the traditional system of corruption that has been in place
for many years and it’s not a secret. It’s more or less across the country.
With NREGA, there was an attempt to put in safeguards that would prevent
this and make the system as transparent as possible. For example, earlier
the muster rolls were fudged because they were virtually a secret and
there was no right to access them. Now there is a right to access them
both under the Right to Information Act and NREGA. They also have to be
put on the Internet. There is a whole battery of safeguards and guidelines
which are meant to move away from the traditional system of corruption.
In different parts of the country, this transition is
taking place at various speeds. In Rajasthan, the muster rolls are more
or less clean now. Andhra Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh and Tamil Nadu have
made substantial progress towards a transparent system. And then there
are places like this where the old system still survives because it’s
too powerful and the vested interests are able to defeat the transparency
safeguards. For example, here you will never see a muster roll at the
work site; job card maintenance is not being done. All the guidelines
are being violated because the old system is trying to survive. The biggest
protection is if the labourers are aware of their right, which, in this
area, is completely missing. But I am not losing hope. The fact that corruption
is a big issue is in itself a sign of progress because earlier there was
no talk of it at all.
What is the
good news?
The
scheme is definitely reaching the poorest of the poor. Earlier there was
no work for women apart from domestic work, which was unpaid. Suddenly
they have a chance, there is work that can earn them Rs 86 at their doorstep.
There is evidence that where there is NREGS work, it does help them to
avoid hunger, migration. Some people also say that the work has been productive,
which is interesting, because there is a myth that has been created that
all of this is useless work. It’s true that the economic productivity
of the work can be substantially improved, but it’s quite possibly more
productive than many large-scale industrial projects. In terms of the
procedural aspects, even though it’s pretty bad, we still see some change.
Within the traditional system, contractors would use machines to get the
work done because it’s cheaper and faster and they would fill the muster
rolls and claim the money for the work that was done by machines. But
that has more or less disappeared, not just in this area, but all over
the country. The contractors are still there, even though they are supposed
to be banned, but, even in that respect, I would say that exploitation
of workers at work sites is substantially declining.
What was the
agenda of the public meeting before Lalit’s murder?
The initial intention was not to focus on
corruption. We wanted to understand in
totality the implementation of the NREGA,
and also interview workers and see what it
means to them, which we have done. But
on the other hand, after having come here
and finding cases of corruption, we have
been constrained to actually look at that.
Now, because of the possible link to this
murder; it has become a much bigger issue.
It shouldn’t become the only issue because
even in this area, which is one of the worst
blocks in one of the worst districts in one
of the worst states as far as the NREGA is
concerned, there is a lot of good news. So,
we want to keep the focus on that larger
picture. But we also have to talk about corruption
because it is derailing the programme
and depriving people of their
rights on a large scale. It’s true that a lot
of the Centre’s money is being wasted,
but the main point is that there could
have been work on a large scale in this
area. It hasn’t happened because so
much money has gone down the drain.
Even though we are not claiming that it
was because of this particular activity that
Lalit’s murder happened, the public meeting
is a bit of a declaration that his work
will continue. This was clearly an act of intimidation,
but it has not succeeded. This is
an opportunity to extend the kind of work
that he was doing.
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